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		<description><![CDATA[[This was a letter I wrote in response to an online conversation of our organic fellowship I am a part of] Hey Matt &#38; body! First, I am concerned that those who may not know you as well as I do, may read the below email as if it was written with a spirit of <a href="http://thenormalchristian.wordpress.com/2012/10/26/obedience-and-the-normal-christian/" class="excerpt-more-link">[&#8230;]</a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=thenormalchristian.wordpress.com&#038;blog=6566561&#038;post=483&#038;subd=thenormalchristian&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="color:#000000;">[This was a letter I wrote in response to an online conversation of our organic fellowship I am a part of]</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;"><a href="http://thenormalchristian.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/joy-of-obedience.jpg"><img class="alignleft  wp-image-488" title="Joy of Obedience" alt="" src="http://thenormalchristian.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/joy-of-obedience.jpg?w=243&#038;h=183" height="183" width="243" /></a>Hey Matt &amp; body!</span><br />
<span style="color:#000000;">First, I am concerned that those who may not know you as well as I do, may read the below email as if it was written with a spirit of contention.  I know your heart &amp; because I do, I know you wrote it in love.  Anyway, I just wanted to make sure no one was distracted by a misunderstanding. Blessings!!!</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">Let me start by stating publicly how much I appreciate Matt &amp; Elisa&#8217;s heart for the lost AND for Jesus&#8217; body.  Matt, I have always appreciated your lens from which you see Jesus &amp; His body.  You are right on when it comes to &#8220;obedience&#8221; (daily sanctifying walk) and it is born out of and rises from our new life (finished work of Christ IN us). Both your heart &amp; Dave&#8217;s heart regarding truth are desperately needed, because it helps us be a healthier body.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">I want to briefly further weigh in on this discussion.  First, it is a beautiful illustration of Jesus&#8217; body in action. Only when we share life together do we get the complete picture of HIM.  Both Matt &amp; Dave are right on.  We work OUT that which <span style="text-decoration:underline;">WAS</span> worked IN!!! Phil. 2:12b-13 says, <i>&#8220;&#8230;but now </i>much more in my absence, <b>work out</b> your salvation with fear and trembling; for <b>it is God who is at work in you</b>, both to <b>will</b> and to <b>work</b> for <span style="text-decoration:underline;">His</span><i><span style="text-decoration:underline;"> good pleasure</span>.&#8221;  </i></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">Our life in Christ is not &#8220;positional&#8221; nor is it &#8220;legal&#8221;. It IS what it is. A <span style="text-decoration:underline;">new life</span> for a dead man.  As this new person, according to Col. 3:1 &amp; Eph. 2:6, I <span style="text-decoration:underline;">have been raised</span> (past tense-finished work) with Jesus and I <span style="text-decoration:underline;">am seated</span> with Jesus in heavenly places. I AM forgiven&#8230;sanctified&#8230;holy&#8230;righteous&#8230;etc. etc. So&#8230;..now what?</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#000000;">Obedience without life (resulting in an intimate loving relationship) is religion and breeds death. In the NT, the phrase &#8220;bond servants&#8221; is used 12 times after the resurrection. What a glorious picture of our life in Jesus.  You see a bond servant was considered as a true part of the master&#8217;s family. His gratitude &amp; love was so strong for his master when he was an indentured servant that he wanted to spend his life in lovingly service to his master.  True obedience IN CHRIST therefore, is a natural by product of the life we DO have as HIS SON&#8217;S/DAUGHTERS.  What are we obeying after all?  His voice&#8230;His heart&#8230;His passion&#8230;His desires!!! It is born out of a deeply intimate life with Jesus.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">I spent a long time in my walk with Jesus &#8220;working hard for Jesus&#8221; and to be obedient &amp; was also taught &amp; told to so. This kind of life sent me deeper into a life of addiction and sin. Why? Because the law produces death&#8230;period.  Yes obedience should definitely be a part of our lives, because it is the natural by-product of the life we receive.  Hence the beauty of living in community together as His body.  We should be sharing our passions &amp; desires that Jesus has placed in us to encourage and stimulate growth in HIS body.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">I think the challenge is somewhat semantical. Obey is a verb; Obedience is a noun.  If you do a search, obey as it is primarily directed to the disciples, is used by Jesus prior to the cross &amp; resurrection&#8230;hence under the old covenant. Whereas obedience (what we have in Jesus) is used in the New Covenant.  Jesus was burying those He taught under the burden of the law in order to accomplish the work of the law which is to lead them to their Savior (Himself.) (Also read Gal. 3:24-25.) We need to be careful regarding the preaching of &#8220;obeying&#8221; that is not born out of life in Jesus (intimacy.) Why? I Cor. 15:56 says, <i>&#8220;&#8230;and the power of sin is the law.&#8221;</i></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">As for 1 Jn. 2:6, the logical question is how did Jesus walk? He walked in absolute dependency on His Father as the very sustenance of life.  Remember Jesus said He only spoke &amp; did what Father told Him too. Again, this was born out of that intimate, real life that He experienced with our Father.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">Therefore, brother Matt &amp; Dave we must encourage each other to be diligent to DO somethings:</span></p>
<div style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#000000;"><b>Eph 4:3</b> = <i>&#8220;&#8230;to preserve the unity in the bond of peace.&#8221;</i></span></div>
<div style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#000000;"><b>2 Tim 2:15</b> = &#8220;&#8230;<i>to present yourself approved [accepted/pleasing] to God as a workman who does not need to be ashamed, accurately handling the word of truth.&#8221; </i></span></div>
<div style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#000000;">[my favorite] <b>Heb. 4:11</b> = <i>&#8220;&#8230;to enter that rest [Jesus], so that no one will fall, through following the same example of disobedience [like the Jews who did not enter His rest]&#8220;</i></span></div>
<div style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#000000;">[I believe we should be "striving" and "working" to encourage &amp; stimulate each other to walk in the REST that IS ours IN Jesus]</span></div>
<div style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#000000;"><b>2 Pet. 1:10</b> = <i>&#8220;to make certain about His calling and choosing you;&#8221;</i></span></div>
<div style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#000000;"><b>2 Pet 3:14</b> = <i>&#8220;</i><i>to be found by Him in peace, spotless and blameless,&#8221;</i></span></div>
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<p><span style="color:#000000;">I am not writing this response as a defense to anything or as an indictment on anyone.  I love the body &amp; long to see us walk in love and harmony in the truth.  We are ALL unique parts of Jesus body (life) and we each provide a glorious balance to each other.  Let us walk in the obedience that is ours &amp; walk in truth and total dependency on Jesus who IS our life.  There is so much more that I would like to write, but I will spare you my beloved family&#8230;LOL!</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">I want to conclude with Peter&#8217;s words:</span><br />
<span style="color:#000000;"><i>&#8220;You therefore, <span style="text-decoration:underline;">beloved</span>, knowing this beforehand, be on your guard so that you are not carried away by the error of unprincipled men and fall from your own steadfastness, <b>but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ</b>. To Him be the glory, both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.&#8221;</i></span></p>
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		<title>AN OPEN LETTER TO ALL CHRISTIANS REGARDING HYPNOSIS</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear ____, Your e-mail upsets and angers me.  My feelings are NOT directed at you, but at this system of religion that has so blinded us all. You are a dear sweet sister and I know you are merely speaking from a heart of love.  Yet out of the overflow of ignorance that is out <a href="http://thenormalchristian.wordpress.com/2011/08/19/an-open-letter-to-all-christians-regarding-hypnosis/" class="excerpt-more-link">[&#8230;]</a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=thenormalchristian.wordpress.com&#038;blog=6566561&#038;post=471&#038;subd=thenormalchristian&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="color:#993300;">Dear ____,<a href="http://thenormalchristian.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/computer-mind1.jpg"><img class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-476" title="Computer Mind" src="http://thenormalchristian.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/computer-mind1.jpg?w=150&#038;h=112" alt="" width="150" height="112" /></a></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#993300;">Your e-mail upsets and angers me.  My feelings are <strong>NOT</strong> directed at you, but at this system of religion that has so blinded us all. You are a dear sweet sister and I know you are merely speaking from a heart of love.  Yet out of the overflow of ignorance that is out there amongst Christians, many speak out.  How can you make such strong claims if you, <span style="text-decoration:underline;">by your own admission</span>, are “<em>by no means…an authority on the subject”?</em>  This is the type of legalistic blindness <strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">I had</span></strong> that led me away from pursuing a psychology and/or hypnosis at the age of 18.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#993300;">Having said all this, I will answer your message point by point.  You’ll notice as I go through, that your comments/questions are based on <strong>many</strong> flawed presuppositions.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#993300;"><em>1)    </em><span style="color:#ef0413;"><em>“Is being under the influence of another&#8217;s suggestions, while in a hypnotic state of mind, being of sober mind?”</em> </span></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#993300;">Your <span style="text-decoration:underline;">presupposition</span> is that the person is UNDER the influence.  This is furthest from the truth of what hypnosis is.  Hypnosis is a natural state of mind that we ALL experience at least twice a day &amp; often many times a day.  I will define it later.  You are <span style="text-decoration:underline;">presupposing</span> that the person is submitting to another’s will. NO….NO….NO!!! The client is absolutely in control at ALL times….period!  There are merely agreeing to be led by someone to <strong>their</strong> desired goal.  They are NOT under anything but rather are <strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">IN</span></strong> a natural AND common state of mind.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#993300;"><em>2)    </em><span style="color:#ef0413;"><em>In order for this kind of &#8220;therapy&#8221; to be effective must the subject/patient be willingly susceptible to suggestion?</em></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#993300;">Again, your question is presupposing that the client is “subject”.  THEY ARE NOT!!!  THEY are in control &amp; are merely following the direction of the hypnotist or being willingly guided.  For example, just like a midwife assists the mother in the NATURAL birthing process, so do I assist someone like a “mental midwife” in the  natural process of how the mind operates, in order to “give birth” to the transformation <strong>they</strong> desire.  Also, your presupposition is flawed in that EVERYONE is “<em>susceptible to suggestion</em>”.  It’s not right or wrong, bad or good.  It is merely the human condition.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#993300;"><em>3)    </em><span style="color:#ef0413;"><em>The power of &#8220;suggestion&#8221;? Is this the way of Christ?</em><em> </em></span><em></em></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#993300;">Again, do you see what you are assuming???  The power of suggestion is NOT the way of Christ.  Why is that wrong or evil?  If a police officer runs in to the room &amp; yells, “Get in the basement! There is a mad man with a machine gun!”  What would we do?  Our heart rates would jump; fear would grip some; some would cry; we would run; etc., etc.  Why?  Aren’t they “<em>succumbing</em>” to the “<em>power</em>” of suggestion?  Is that the way of Christ?  Just the mere questions sounds silly now doesn’t it.  But guess what?  I just described people who were in a light state of hypnosis.  You see the “trance” state as many call it, is VERY normal &amp; natural.  You experience it every day as you are about to fall “into” natural sleep &amp; when you are “waking” from a natural sleep.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#993300;"><em>4)    </em><span style="color:#ef0413;"><em>Is it possible, that while under such loss of at least a certain amount of control, perhaps even willingly giving up our will temporarily, we could be opening the door for something other than what we intend?</em></span><em></em></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#993300;">___, you can see that I don’t even have to answer this because it has been answered.  A person is NOT <strong>under</strong> anything!  They do NOT loss control of anything!  Their will is NEVER surrend….period!!!  They are actually in MORE control than in a “waking” state.  In other words, your SM is in a state of HIGHTENED awareness. So, theoretically speaking ____ if a person is truly <span style="text-decoration:underline;">IN Christ</span>, then they would be MORE opened to Jesus NOT the devil or evil, because our identity is newly created IN Christ Jesus!</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#993300;"><em>5)    </em><span style="color:#ef0413;"><em>In what way is this being of sober mind?</em></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#993300;">I was excited when I read this.  The Greek word for “sober” is nafo.  Here is a brief definition of this word: <em>1)</em><em> </em><em>to be sober, <strong>to be calm</strong> <strong>and collected in spirit</strong>; 2) to be temperate, dispassionate, circumspect.  </em>Hmmm?  Sounds a little like hypnosis to me.  In what way is what I just explained (above) NOT sober minded.  As a matter of fact, when a person is experiencing the wonderful state of hypnosis, their awareness is extremely heightened as well as all of their senses.  Could this not be defined as “sober minded”.  When you are “seeing” or experiencing your past or a recent past event, everything becomes much, much clearer.  Sounds a bit like a sober minded person.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#993300;"><em>6)    </em><span style="color:#ef0413;"><em>Is it not Christ Himself who changes us from within? Can we (ourselves) or another person change us, as regarding the increase of Christ in us; the Life of Christ? If not, what is being changed in us and by whom? If it is so that it is not Christ, then all other would only be considered other than Christ, be that the will of man or a different other. What is the point if it is not Christ?</em><em> </em></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#993300;">I am SO glad you asked all of these questions.  First YES…Jesus recreates us within our spirits into a NEW CREATION.  Hypnosis has nothing do with our new life in Jesus.  This is NOT what I am speaking about in regard to hypnosis. </span></p>
<p><span style="color:#993300;">Believe it or not THIS is the very reason why I decided to pursue &amp; use hypnosis.  Case in point…..YOU!  Why do <span style="text-decoration:underline;">you</span> still struggle with the fears you have; and maybe some other issues?  I know you love Jesus &amp; you ARE being conformed into His image, and yet you STILL have serious fears and anxiety.  You see, we <strong>ALL</strong> have had our “organic” computer (subconscious minds- SM) programmed since we were young by events, comments, traumas, etc. Because our SM’s job is to protect us from things real <strong>OR</strong> imagined.   Like the hard drive of a computer, ALL we’ve ever experienced and learned is stored there.  We then spend the rest of our lives responding according to this “programming” AND we don’t even realize it.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#993300;">This motivated me to pursue hypnosis, because although Father has used me in the lives of many, many people, what I saw was people would often have an issue (like a habit, fear, addiction, depression, etc.) that seemed to “hang on” EVEN THOUGH they had experience a large measure of freedom.  Now, not only will these folks be eternally set free in Jesus, and become a “new creation”, but their soul can be set free AS WELL from those old “tapes” programmed in the SM!!!</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#993300;">Is it evil or spiritually unhealthy to go to a surgeon to repair something that is physically malfunctioning after you are saved? Of course not!  So why is it so wrong to pursue surgery for your soul? (I’m NOT talking about your spirit….please see the difference)</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#993300;">Simply put here is the best definition of hypnosis I have arrived at (with a lot of help from Dave Elman):</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#993300;"><em><strong>“Hypnosis is a natural state of mind in which the <span style="text-decoration:underline;">critical factor of the conscious mind is bypassed</span>, and</strong></em><strong><em>  an establishment of <span style="text-decoration:underline;">acceptable </span></em></strong><em><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">selective thinking</span></strong></em><em><strong> (resulting in physical &amp; mental relaxation).”</strong></em><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#993300;">Here’s another one by Gil Boyne:</span></p>
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<li><span style="color:#993300;"><strong><em>An extraordinary quality of relaxation.</em></strong><strong></strong></span></li>
<li><span style="color:#993300;"><strong><em>An emotionalized desire to satisfy the suggested behaviour: The person feels like doing what the hypnotist suggests, provided that what is suggested does not generate conflict with his belief system.</em></strong><strong></strong></span></li>
<li><span style="color:#993300;"><strong><em>The organism becomes self-regulating and produces normalization of the central nervous system.</em></strong><strong></strong></span></li>
<li><span style="color:#993300;"><strong><em>Heightened and selective sensitivity to stimuli perceived by the five senses and four basic perceptions.</em></strong><strong></strong></span></li>
<li><span style="color:#993300;"><strong><em>Immediate softening of psychic defenses.</em></strong></span></li>
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<p><span style="color:#993300;">­­­___, hypnosis happens ALL the time in life.  Most folks just don’t recognize it.  For example: “highway hypnosis” where you miss an exit; “zoning out” while the teacher is talking; “day dreaming”; “in the zone” are some obvious ones.  There are several biblical examples (words) used that support all that I said above as well (but that’s for another time).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#993300;">The bottom line is this: hypnosis is neither mysterious nor nefarious; neither unnatural nor supernatural.  It IS as certain as gravity and as scientific as turning water into ice.  The fear Christians have in hypnosis is mistaking that which is unknown for that which is evil.  My dear sister like gravity, just because a person doesn’t believe it exists or they think it’s evil does not protect them from its effect. </span></p>
<p><span style="color:#993300;">I wasn’t intending on writing so long, but it is extremely important that the truth be told.  Again, I know your intentions were pure and motivated by love in writing what you wrote.  I am not upset with you.  As a matter of fact, I’ve been waiting for someone to ask those questions.  You just happened to be the first…LOL!</span></p>
<p align="right"><span style="color:#993300;">Sincerely In Jesus!</span></p>
<p align="right"><span style="color:#993300;">Anthony</span></p>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="color:#000000;">I found this post on Facebook and had to re-post it here.  I find so many Christians &#8220;trying hard&#8221; and they are still living a life of unfulfilled bondage, and it just breaks my heart. This short post answers the question, &#8220;But HOW do I enjoy this life I&#8217;ve been given?&#8221;</span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><em><span style="color:#000000;">My <strong>old self</strong></span> <span style="text-decoration:underline;"><span style="color:#ff0000;text-decoration:underline;"><strong>has been</strong></span></span> <span style="color:#000000;">crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but</span> <strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><span style="color:#ff0000;text-decoration:underline;">Christ lives in me</span></span></strong><span style="color:#000000;">. So I live in this earthly body <strong>by trusting in the Son of God</strong>, who loved me and gave himself for me.</span></em><span style="color:#000000;"> ~ Galations 2:20 (NLT)</span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;">++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;"><strong>The Wink of Faith..Excerpt from Bill Volkman&#8217;s book&#8230;..</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">Galatians 2:20 is familiar to most Christians, as it is probably one of the ten most quoted and memorized verses in the Bible. Through the years no verse has presented more of a challenge to &#8220;deeper life&#8221; seekers.  Countless pamphlets and pages of books have been written about and around this verse.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;"><strong>The key to a liberated and fulfilling, productive life is recognition &#8211; <span style="text-decoration:underline;">recognition of who we are</span>.</strong> For forty-one years I was unable to answer the question, &#8221; Who am I?&#8221; I glibly talked about being &#8221; a new creature in Christ, but those were only words. No wonder my apparently &#8221; successful&#8221; life had been marked by periods of <strong>questioning</strong>, <strong>unrest</strong>, <strong>spiritual drought</strong> and what I considered to be <strong>&#8220;hidden sins&#8221;</strong>. No wonder I had such a poor self-image.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">I had answered the question &#8220;are you born again?&#8221; , but I had never answered the more fundamental question: <strong>&#8220;Do you know who you are?&#8221;</strong> I had not yet adequately nor correctly seen who I really was.  I was more than the Bill Volkman I thought I saw when I looked in the mirror.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">The big breakthrough in my understanding came when I suddenly saw that the King James Version of the Bible reads, &#8220;I live by the faith of the Son of God, rather than, &#8220;I live by my faith in the Son of God,&#8221; as I had memorized it from the New American Standard Version. All along I had the impression that my spiritual success was related to my faith in Christ (which always seemed to be faltering!). Now I could relax. In my union with Christ I would live by His faith &#8212; His perfect faith was expressing itself through me!</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">Do you see the difference? <strong>As long as your perception of spiritual success is contingent on your personal performance as an independent self, sooner or later you will fall short of your personal goals and expectations.</strong> Once you see that</span> <span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong>Christ in you is more than a &#8220;positional&#8221; truth -that He, as a living Person, with the attributes of faith, hope and love, actually lives His life through you, as you &#8212; then rest and creative freedom is attainable.</strong></span></p>
<p style="text-align:right;"><span style="color:#000000;"><em>Excerpt. © Reprinted by permission. All rights reserved.</em></span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;">+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++</span></p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#000000;">THE NORMAL CHRISTIAN LIFE IS A LIFE LIVED IN UTTER DEPENDENCE ON JESUS&#8217; LIFE TO BE LIVED <strong>IN</strong> AND <strong>THROUGH</strong> YOU!!! It IS His life given FOR you and TO you AND to be lived THROUGH you.  Stop trying and start simply TRUSTING my friend!</span></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Together, we are to be One, By One, for One, and in One— Jesus Christ our Lord. We are the Bride of Glory, The Dwelling Place of Father, The Ecclesia Family, The Sons of God, The Body of Light, Truth, Resurrection Life and divine Unity. Unite in Life, not in religions, Nor buildings of institution, <a href="http://thenormalchristian.wordpress.com/2011/01/20/a-proclamation-to-the-people-of-god/" class="excerpt-more-link">[&#8230;]</a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=thenormalchristian.wordpress.com&#038;blog=6566561&#038;post=464&#038;subd=thenormalchristian&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Together, we are to be One,</p>
<p>By One, for One, and in One—</p>
<p>Jesus Christ our  Lord.</p>
<p>We are the Bride of Glory,</p>
<p>The Dwelling Place of Father,</p>
<p>The  Ecclesia Family,</p>
<p>The Sons of God,</p>
<p>The Body of Light, Truth,</p>
<p>Resurrection  Life and divine Unity.</p>
<p>Unite in Life, not in religions,</p>
<p>Nor buildings of  institution,</p>
<p>Nor by programs, nor missions,</p>
<p>Nor interpretations, nor religious doctrines,</p>
<p>Nor politics of the nations,</p>
<p>Nor organized ways of man,</p>
<p>But as God’s free people</p>
<p>Living  Him within one another,</p>
<p>Expressing only Jesus Christ.</p>
<p>He is our Head, our body Life</p>
<p>In everyday experience;</p>
<p>Every moment of our existence.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s turn around now, and see Him.</p>
<p>Not His things we admire,</p>
<p>But focus upon the Face of Jesus Christ.</p>
<p>This is a proclamation to  unite</p>
<p>As One people of God, and see Him as One.</p>
<p>If you are listening with the eyes of your heart,</p>
<p>You  will hear the words cry.﻿</p>
<p><strong><em>Author, Kathy Marie Huff</em></strong></p>
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		<title>50 Things the Holy Spirit Does</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Nov 2010 14:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am reposting a blog entry by Frank Viola that I thought was too good to pass up.  He posted it today on his blog located at http://frankviola.wordpress.com/2010/11/18/50-things-the-holy-spirit-does/.  Frank is the author of a number of books three of which I would highly recommend are as follows: From Eternity to Here, Pagan Christianity &#38; Reimagining <a href="http://thenormalchristian.wordpress.com/2010/11/18/50-things-the-holy-spirit-does/" class="excerpt-more-link">[&#8230;]</a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=thenormalchristian.wordpress.com&#038;blog=6566561&#038;post=455&#038;subd=thenormalchristian&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><span style="color:#993300;"><em><a href="http://thenormalchristian.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/flying_white_dove.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-459" title="flying_white_dove" src="http://thenormalchristian.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/flying_white_dove.jpg?w=150&#038;h=150" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a>I am reposting a blog entry by Frank Viola that I thought was too good to pass up.  He posted it today on his blog located at <a href="http://frankviola.wordpress.com/2010/11/18/50-things-the-holy-spirit-does/">http://frankviola.wordpress.com/2010/11/18/50-things-the-holy-spirit-does/</a>.  Frank is the author of a number of books three of which I would highly recommend are as follows: </em></span></strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="color:#993300;"><em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Eternity-Here-Rediscovering-Ageless-Purpose/dp/1434768708/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1290088619&amp;sr=1-4">From Eternity to Here</a><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Eternity-Here-Rediscovering-Ageless-Purpose/dp/1434768708/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1290088326&amp;sr=1-4">,</a> <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Pagan-Christianity-Exploring-Church-Practices/dp/141431485X/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1290088326&amp;sr=1-5">Pagan Christianity </a>&amp; <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Reimagining-Church-Pursuing-Organic-Christianity/dp/1434768759/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1290088326&amp;sr=1-3">Reimagining Church</a>.  If you read these 3 in this order, you will find it amazingly eye opening &amp; enlightening.</em></span></strong></p>
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<p><span style="color:#000000;">1.      He convicts the world of sin, righteousness and judgment (John 16:8).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">2.      He guides us into all truth (John 16:13).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">3.      He regenerates us (John 3:5-8; Titus 3:5).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">4.      He glorifies and testifies of Christ (John 15:26; 16:14).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">5.      He reveals Christ to us and in us (John 16:14-15).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">6.      He leads us (Rom. 8:14; Gal. 5:18; Matt. 4:1; Luke 4:1).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">7.      He sanctifies us (2 Thess. 2:13; 1 Pet. 1:2; Rom. 5:16).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">8.      He empowers us (Luke 4:14; 24:49; Rom. 15:19; Acts 1:8).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">9.      He fills us (Eph. 5:18; Acts 2:4; 4:8, 31; 9:17).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">10.   He teaches us to pray (Rom. 8:26-27; Jude 1:20).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">11.    He bears witness in us that we are children of God (Rom. 8:16).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">12.    He produces in us the fruit or evidence of His work and presence (Gal. 5:22-23).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">13.    He distributes spiritual gifts and manifestations (the outshining) of His presence to and through the body (1 Cor. 12:4, 8-10; Heb. 2:4).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">14.    He anoints us for ministry (Luke 4:18; Acts 10:38).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">15.    He washes and renews us (1 Tim. 3:5).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">16.    He brings unity and oneness to the body (Eph. 4:3; 2:14-18). Here He plays the same role that He plays in the Godhead. The Spirit is the life that unites Father and Son. He plays the same role in the church. When He is operating in a group of people, He unites them in love. Therefore, a sure evidence of the Holy Spirit working in a group is Love and Unity. Not signs and wonders (those are seasonal and can be counterfeited).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">17.    He is our guarantee and deposit of the future resurrection (2 Cor. 1:22; 2 Cor. 5:5).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">18.    He seals us unto the day of redemption (Eph. 1:13; 4:30).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">19.    He sets us free from the law of sin and death (Rom. 8:2).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">20.    He quickens our mortal bodies (Rom. 8:11).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">21.    He reveals the deep things of God to us (1 Cor. 2:10).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">22.    He reveals what has been given to us from God (1 Cor. 2:12).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">23.    He dwells in us (Rom. 8:9; 1 Cor. 3:16; 2 Tim. 1:14; John 14:17).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">24.    He speaks in and through us (1 Cor. 12:3; 1 Tim. 4:1; Rev. 2:11; Heb 3:7; Matt. 10:20; Acts 2:4; 8:29; 10:19; 11:12, 28; 13:2; 16:6,7; 21:4,11).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">25.    He is the agent by which we are baptized into the body of Christ (1 Cor. 12:13).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">26.    He brings liberty (2 Cor. 3:17).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">27.    He transforms us into the image of Christ (2 Cor. 3:18).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">28.    He cries in our hearts, “Abba, Father” (Gal. 4:6).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">29.    He enables us to wait (Gal. 5:5).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">30.    He supplies us with Christ (Phil. 1:19).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">31.    He grants everlasting life (Gal. 6:8).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">32.    He gives us access to God the Father (Eph. 2:18).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">33.    He makes us (corporately) God’s habitation (Eph. 2:22).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">34.    He reveals the mystery of God to us (Eph. 3:5).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">35.    He strengthens our spirits (Eph. 3:16).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">36.    He enables us to obey the truth (1 Pet. 1:22).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">37.    He enables us to know that Jesus abides in us (1 John 3:24; 4:13).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">38.    He confesses that Jesus came in the flesh (1 John 4:3).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">39.    He says “Come, Lord Jesus” along with the bride (Rev. 22:17).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">40.    He dispenses God’s love into our hearts (Rom. 5:5).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">41.    He bears witness to the truth in our conscience (Rom. 9:1).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">42.    He teaches us (1 Cor. 2:13; John 14:26).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">43.    He gives us joy (1 Thess. 1:6).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">44.    He enables some to preach the gospel (1 Pet. 1:12).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">45.    He moves us (1 Pet. 1:21).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">46.    He knows the things of God (1 Cor. 2:11).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">47.    He casts out demons (Matt. 12:28).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">48.    He brings things to our remembrance (John 14:26).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">49.    He comforts us (Acts 9:31).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">50.    He makes some overseers in the church and sends some out to the work of church planting [through the body] (Acts 20:28; 13:2).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;"><strong>Summary:</strong> The Holy Spirit unites us to Jesus Christ and to His body. He reveals Christ to us, gives us His life, and makes Christ alive in us. The Spirit takes the experiences of Jesus … His incarnation, ministry, crucifixion, resurrection, and ascension … and brings them into our own experience. Because of the Holy Spirit, the history of Jesus Christ becomes our story and experience (see Chapter 3 of <strong><a href="http://www.thejesusmanifesto.com/">JESUS MANIFESTO</a></strong> for details).</span></p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 14:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The following article can be found at the following website: http://www.housechurch.org/basics/simson_15.html.  This is one of the most concise and accurate expressions of my hearts longing for Father’s ekklesia.  This is definitely worth a read. 15 Theses. Wolfgang Simson God is changing the Church, and that, in turn, will change the world. Millions of Christians around <a href="http://thenormalchristian.wordpress.com/2010/11/05/god-is-changing-the-church-2/" class="excerpt-more-link">[&#8230;]</a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=thenormalchristian.wordpress.com&#038;blog=6566561&#038;post=450&#038;subd=thenormalchristian&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="color:#000000;">The following article can be found at the following website: <strong><a href="http://www.housechurch.org/basics/simson_15.html">http://www.housechurch.org/basics/simson_15.html</a></strong>.  This is one of the most concise and accurate expressions of my hearts longing for Father’s ekklesia.  This is definitely worth a read.</span></p>
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<h1><span style="color:#000000;"><strong>15 Theses. Wolfgang Simson</strong></span></h1>
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<p><span style="color:#000000;">God is changing the Church, and that, in turn, will change the world. Millions of Christians around the world are aware of an imminent reformation of global proportions. They say, in effect: “Church as we know it is preventing Church as God wants it.” A growing number of them are surprisingly hearing God say the very same things. There is a collective new awareness of age-old revelations, a corporate spiritual echo. In the following “15 Theses” I will summarize a part of this, and I am convinced that it reflects a part of what the Spirit of God is saying to the Church today. For some, it might be the proverbial fist-sized cloud on Elijah’s sky. Others already feel the pouring rain.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;"><strong>1. </strong><strong>Church is a Way of Life, not a series of religious meetings </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">Before they where called Christians, followers of Christ have been called “The Way”. One of the reasons was, that they have literally found “the way to live.” The nature of Church is not reflected in a constant series of religious meetings lead by professional clergy in holy rooms specially reserved to experience Jesus, but in the prophetic way followers of Christ live their everyday life in spiritually extended families as a vivid answer to the questions society faces, at the place where it counts most: in their homes.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;"><strong>2. Time to change the system</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">In aligning itself to the religious patterns of the day, the historic Orthodox Church after Constantine in the 4<sup>th</sup> century AD adopted a religious system which was in essence Old Testament, complete with priests, altar, a Christian temple (cathedral), frankincense and a Jewish, synagogue-style worship pattern. The Roman Catholic Church went on to canonize the system. Luther did reform the content of the gospel, but left the outer forms of “church” remarkably untouched; the Free-Churches freed the system from the State, the Baptists then baptized it, the Quakers dry-cleaned it, the Salvation Army put it into a uniform, the Pentecostals anointed it and the Charismatics renewed it, but until today nobody has really changed the superstructure. It is about time to do just that.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;"><strong>3. The Third Reformation.</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">In rediscovering the gospel of salvation by faith and grace alone, Luther started to reform the Church through a reformation of theology. In the 18<sup>th</sup> century through movements like the Moravians there was a recovery of a new intimacy with God, which led to a reformation of spirituality, the Second Reformation. Now God is touching the wineskins themselves, initiating a Third Reformation, a reformation of structure.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;"><strong>4. From Church-Houses to house-churches</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">Since New Testament times, there is no such thing as “a house of God”. At the cost of his life, Stephen reminded unequivocally: God does not live in temples made by human hands. The Church is the people of God. The Church, therefore, was and is at home where people are at home: in ordinary houses. There, the people of God: -Share their lives in the power of the Holy Spirit, -Have “meatings,” that is, they eat when they meet, -They often do not even hesitate to sell private property and share material and spiritual blessings, -Teach each other in real-life situations how to obey God’s word, dialogue – and not professor-style, -Pray and prophesy with each other, baptize, `lose their face’ and their ego by confessing their sins, -Regaining a new corporate identity by experiencing love, acceptance and forgiveness.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;"><strong>5. The church has to become small in order to grow big </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">Most churches of today are simply too big to provide real fellowship. They have too often become “fellowships without fellowship.” The New Testament Church was a mass of small groups, typically between 10 and 15 people. It grew not upward into big congregations between 20 and 300 people filling a cathedral and making real, mutual communication improbable. Instead, it multiplied “sidewards”, like organic cells, once these groups reached around 15-20 people. Then, if possible, it drew all the Christians together into citywide celebrations, as with Solomon’s Temple court in Jerusalem. The traditional congregational church as we know it is, statistically speaking, neither big nor beautiful, but rather a sad compromise, an overgrown house-church and an under-grown celebration, often missing the dynamics of both.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;"><strong>6. No church is led by a Pastor alone</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">The local church is not led by a Pastor, but fathered by an Elder, a local person of wisdom and reality. The local house-churches are then networked into a movement by the combination of elders and members of the so-called five-fold ministries (Apostles, Prophets, Pastors, Evangelists and Teachers) circulating “from house to house,” whereby there is a special foundational role to play for the apostolic and prophetic ministries (Eph. 2:20, and 4:11.12). A Pastor (shepherd) is a very necessary part of the whole team, but he cannot fulfill more than a part of the whole task of “equipping the saints for the ministry,” and has to be complemented synergistically by the other four ministries in order to function properly.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;"><strong>7. The right pieces – fitted together in the wrong way</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">In doing a puzzle, we need to have the right original for the pieces, otherwise the final product, the whole picture, turns out wrong, and the individual pieces do not make much sense. This has happened to large parts of the Christian world: we have all the right pieces, but have fitted them together wrong, because of fear, tradition, religious jealousy and a power-and-control mentality. As water is found in three forms, ice, water and steam, the five ministries mentioned in Eph. 4:11-12, the Apostles, Prophets, Pastors, Teachers and Evangelists are also found today, but not always in the right forms and in the right places: they are often frozen to ice in the rigid system of institutionalized Christianity; they sometimes exist as clear water; or they have vanished like steam into the thin air of free-flying ministries and “independent” churches, accountable to no-one. As it is best to water flowers with the fluid version of water, these five equipping ministries will have to be transformed back into new, and at the same time age-old, forms, so that the whole spiritual organism can flourish and the individual “ministers” can find their proper role and place in the whole. That is one more reason why we need to return back to the Maker’s original and blueprint for the Church.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;"><strong>8. God does not leave the Church in the hands of bureaucratic clergy </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">No expression of a New Testament church is ever led by just one professional “holy man” doing the business of communicating with God and then feeding some relatively passive religious consumers Moses-style. Christianity has adopted this method from pagan religions, or at best from the Old Testament. The heavy piritualizationon of the church since Constantine has now been a pervasive influence long enough, dividing the people of God artificially into laity and clergy. According to the New Testament (1 Tim. 2:5), “there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.” God simply does not bless religious professionals to force themselves in-between people and God forever. The veil is torn, and God is allowing people to access Himself directly through Jesus Christ, the only Way. To enable the priesthood of all believers, the present system will have to change completely. Bureaucracy is the most dubious of all administrative systems, because it basically asks only two questions: yes or no. There is no room for spontaneity and humanity, no room for real life. This may be OK for politics and companies, but not the Church. God seems to be in the business of delivering His Church from a Babylonian captivity of religious bureaucrats and controlling spirits into the public domain, the hands of ordinary people made extraordinary by God, who, like in the old days, may still smell of fish, perfume and revolution.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;"><strong>9. Return from organized to organic forms of Christianity</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">The “Body of Christ” is a vivid description of an organic, not an organized, being. Church consists on its local level of a multitude of spiritual families, which are organically related to each other as a network, where the way the pieces are functioning together is an integral part of the message of the whole. What has become a maximum of organization with a minimum of organism, has to be changed into a minimum of organization to allow a maximum of organism. Too much organization has, like a straightjacket, often choked the organism for fear that something might go wrong. Fear is the opposite of faith, and not exactly a Christian virtue. Fear wants to control, faith can trust. Control, therefore, may be good, but trust is better. The Body of Christ is entrusted by God into the hands of steward-minded people with a supernatural charismatic gift to believe God that He is still in control, even if they are not. A development of trust-related regional and national networks, not a new arrangement of political ecumenism is necessary for organic forms of Christianity to reemerge.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;"><strong>10. From worshipping our worship to worshipping God</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">The image of much of contemporary Christianity can be summarized, a bit euphemistically, as holy people coming regularly to a holy place at a holy day at a holy hour to participate in a holy ritual lead by a holy man dressed in holy clothes against a holy fee. Since this regular performance-oriented enterprise called “worship service” requires a lot of organizational talent and administrative bureaucracy to keep going, formalized and institutionalized patterns developed quickly into rigid traditions. Statistically, a traditional 1-2 hour “worship service” is very resource-hungry but actually produces very little fruit in terms of discipling people, that is, in changed lives. Economically speaking, it might be a “high input and low output” structure. Traditionally, the desire to “worship in the right way” has led to much denominationalism, confessionalism and nominalism. This not only ignores that Christians are called to “worship in truth and in spirit,” not in cathedrals holding songbooks, but also ignores that most of life is informal, and so is Christianity as “the Way of Life.” Do we need to change from being powerful actors to start “acting powerfully?”</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;"><strong>11. Stop bringing people to church, and start bringing the church to the people </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">The church is changing back from being a Come-structure to being again a Go-structure. As one result, the Church needs to stop trying to bring people “into the church,” and start bringing the Church to the people. The mission of the Church will never be accomplished just by adding to the existing structure; it will take nothing less than a mushrooming of the church through spontaneous multiplication of itself into areas of the population of the world, where Christ is not yet known.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;"><strong>12. Rediscovering the “Lord’s Supper” to be a real supper with real food</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">Church tradition has managed to “celebrate the Lord’s Supper” in a homeopathic and deeply religious form, characteristically with a few drops of wine, a tasteless cookie and a sad face. However, the “Lord’s Supper” was actually more a substantial supper with a symbolic meaning, than a symbolic supper with a substantial meaning. God is restoring eating back into our meeting.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;"><strong>13. From Denominations to city-wide celebrations</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">Jesus called a universal movement, and what came was a series of religious companies with global chains marketing their special brands of Christianity and competing with each other. Through this branding of Christianity most of Protestantism has, therefore, become politically insignificant and often more concerned with traditional specialties and religious infighting than with developing a collective testimony before the world. Jesus simply never asked people to organize themselves into denominations. In the early days of the Church, Christians had a dual identity: they were truly His church and vertically converted to God, and then organized themselves according to geography, that is, converting also horizontally to each other on earth. This means not only Christian neighbors organizing themselves into neighborhood- or house-churches, where they share their lives locally, but Christians coming together as a collective identity as much as they can for citywide or regional celebrations expressing the corporateness of the Church of the city or region. Authenticity in the neighborhoods connected with a regional or citywide corporate identity will make the Church not only politically significant and spiritually convincing, but will allow a return to the biblical model of the City-Church.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;"><strong>14. Developing a persecution-proof spirit</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">They crucified Jesus, the Boss of all the Christians. Today, his followers are often more into titles, medals and social respectability, or, worst of all, they remain silent and are not worth being noticed at all. “Blessed are you when you are persecuted”, says Jesus. Biblical Christianity is a healthy threat to pagan godlessness and sinfulness, a world overcome by greed, materialism, jealousy and any amount of demonic standards of ethics, sex, money and power. Contemporary Christianity in many countries is simply too harmless and polite to be worth persecuting. But as Christians again live out New Testament standards of life and, for example, call sin as sin, conversion or persecution has been, is and will be the natural reaction of the world. Instead of nesting comfortably in temporary zones of religious liberty, Christians will have to prepare to be again discovered as the main culprits against global humanism, the modern slavery of having to have fun and the outright worship of Self, the wrong centre of the universe. That is why Christians will and must feel the “repressive tolerance” of a world which has lost any absolutes and therefore refuses to recognize and obey its creator God with his absolute standards. Coupled with the growing ideologisation, privatization and piritualization of politics and economics, Christians will, sooner than most think, have their chance to stand happily accused in the company of Jesus. They need to prepare now for the future by developing a persecution-proof spirit and an even more persecution-proof structure.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;"><strong>15. The Church comes home</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">Where is the easiest place, say, for a man to be spiritual? Maybe again, is it hiding behind a big pulpit, dressed up in holy robes, preaching holy words to a faceless crowd and then disappearing into an office? And what is the most difficult, and therefore most meaningful, place for a man to be spiritual? At home, in the presence of his wife and children, where everything he does and says is automatically put through a spiritual litmus test against reality, where hypocrisy can be effectively weeded out and authenticity can grow. Much of Christianity has fled the family, often as a place of its own spiritual defeat, and then has organized artificial performances in sacred buildings far from the atmosphere of real life. As God is in the business of recapturing the homes, the church turns back to its roots, back to where it came from. It literally comes home, completing the circle of Church history at the end of world history.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">As Christians of all walks of life, from all denominations and backgrounds, feel a clear echo in their spirit to what God’s Spirit is saying to the Church, and start to hear globally in order to act locally, they begin to function again as one body. They organize themselves into neighborhood house-churches and meet in regional or city-celebrations. You are invited to become part of this movement and make your own contribution. Maybe your home, too, will become a house that changes the world.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:right;"><span style="color:#000000;">By Wolfgang Simson</span></p>
<p style="text-align:right;"><strong><span style="color:#000000;"><a href="http://www.housechurch.org/basics/simson_15.html">http://www.housechurch.org/basics/simson_15.html</a></span></strong></p>
<p><strong>For further reading regarding the revolution of the church, please read the following: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Pagan-Christianity-Exploring-Church-Practices/dp/141431485X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1288965820&amp;sr=1-1">PAGAN CHRISTIANITY</a></strong> &amp; then <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Reimagining-Church-Pursuing-Organic-Christianity/dp/1434768759/ref=pd_sim_b_1"><strong>REIMAGINING THE CHURCH</strong></a>.  <strong>Also, check out Wolfgang&#8217;s book entitled</strong> <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Houses-Change-World-Wolfgang-Simson/dp/185078356X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1288966163&amp;sr=1-1"><strong>Houses That Change The World</strong></a></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I found the following entry on a blog entitled &#8220;The Way Journal&#8221; by our brother Andrew Strom.  I encourage you to check it out.  He and I are definitely on the same page.  So, read his latest blog entry below and of course may the Lord Jesus bless you richly! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ THE CHURCH OF TOMORROW <a href="http://thenormalchristian.wordpress.com/2010/09/30/the-church-of-tomorrow/" class="excerpt-more-link">[&#8230;]</a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=thenormalchristian.wordpress.com&#038;blog=6566561&#038;post=444&#038;subd=thenormalchristian&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="color:#000000;">I found the following entry on a blog entitled &#8220;<strong><a href="http://thewayjournal.blogspot.com/">The Way Journa</a></strong>l&#8221; by our brother Andrew Strom.  I encourage you to check it out.  He and I are definitely on the same page.  So, read his latest blog entry below and of course may the Lord Jesus bless you richly!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#000000;"><strong>THE CHURCH OF TOMORROW</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">For awhile now I&#8217;ve been sensing in my spirit that there is something shaking.  Hebrews tells us that there would come a time when everything would be shaken and only that which remained would last.  In recent years I&#8217;ve witnessed a great migration taking place.  An exodus out of the organizations we call &#8220;church&#8221; to gatherings in homes and online.  There are several reasons for this exodus.  Most are waking up, looking around and saying &#8220;where am I? how did I get here? what do I do now?&#8221;  There&#8217;s a disorientation that often accompanies a long deep slumber.  Some, when fully awake, realize that they were so horribly deceived that they determine to bring the system down.  Hundreds of books and websites, blogs and Facebook and other social networking pages have been created and published for this very purpose.  Some of them are really beneficial and water the soul.  Others are filled with rebellion, animosity and false teachings leading many astray.  Currently, it seems to me that the latter is gaining the most ground.  People are exchanging the truth for a lie and inventing a Jesus, God and gospel they can live with, rather than submit to the One and only True One.  We have never been called to bring God to our way of thinking &#8211; we have always been called to Him.  He is unchanging, unwavering, immovable.  One never brings a river to themselves &#8211; one must always journey to the river.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">God is shaking.  He is shaking the church and sifting it.  Those who are pure of heart will easily pass through the sieve.  Those who are not will not pass through those small openings.  Everything that can be shaken is being shaken.  Why? Because it&#8217;s a preparation &#8211; a last push and call for the Kingdom that&#8217;s coming in physical form.  Only a pure spotless Bride will be counted worthy to participate in the first resurrection, which is the marriage of the Lamb.  God is restoring the body of Christ to it&#8217;s origins and purposes, accompanied by all the power of the Holy Spirit operating and confirming with REAL signs, wonders and miracles, in order to reach a lost and dying world and to hopefully snatch some from the fire that are caught up in the false doctrines and teachings.  I urge anyone reading this today to heed the call.  Purify your hearts and minds.  Reject all that is unholy and untrue.  Return to the real Jesus and the real God.  Repent.  Call on the Lord while He may be found.  The result?  A restored New Testament Church in full operation to usher in the return of the King.  What does that look like?  Well, I think Andrew Strom says it far better than me.  I want this.  I want this so bad I can taste it.</span></p>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="color:#000000;">Every man and Christian  couple need to read this article.  It is written by Jon Zens.  Jon is  editor of the quarterly publication <span style="color:#0000ff;"><a href="http://www.searchingtogether.org/"><strong>Searching Together</strong></a></span>, manager of a Christian bookstore,<strong> </strong>and author of <a href="http://www.jonzens.com/?page=shop/flypage&amp;product_id=288&amp;keyword=ZENS&amp;searchby=author&amp;offset=0&amp;fs=1&amp;CLSN_2419=128414368324197adbab92b7221f20dd"><strong><em>What&#8217;s With Paul and Women?: Unlocking the Cultural Background to 1 Timothy 2</em> </strong></a>and <a href="http://www.jonzens.com/?page=shop/flypage&amp;product_id=255&amp;keyword=ZENS&amp;searchby=author&amp;offset=0&amp;fs=1&amp;CLSN_2419=128414368324197adbab92b7221f20dd"><strong><em>A Church Building Every 1/2 Mile: What Makes American Christianity Tick?</em></strong></a></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#000000;">&#8220;Who&#8217;s  in charge?&#8221; is a source of friction in many marriages. Latching on to  the traditional concept of &#8220;male headship,&#8221; a number of Christian  husbands use this mantra to abuse or marginalize their wives. I would  like to suggest that there is a healing paradigm that would liberate  couples and vastly improve marital relationships—<em>seek the mind of the Lord together</em>. This paradigm is unfolded in 1 Corinthians 7:1-5.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">1 Corinthians 7:1-5 is the <em>only</em> place in the New Testament where the word &#8220;authority&#8221; (Greek, <em>exousia</em>)  is used with reference to marriage. Yet it is not the authority of the  husband over the wife, or vice versa, that is in view, but rather a <em>mutual authority</em> over each other&#8217;s body. 1 Corinthians 7:4 states that the wife has  authority over her husband’s body. One would think that this would be a  hard pill to swallow for those who see &#8220;authority&#8221; as resting only in  the husband&#8217;s headship.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">In the context of this passage Paul states that a couple cannot separate from one another physically unless there is <em>mutual consent</em><em>symphonou</em>).  Both parties must agree to the separation or it shouldn’t happen. There  is, then, nothing in this text supporting the contention that the  husband’s &#8220;authority&#8221; should override his wife&#8217;s differing viewpoint.</span> (Greek,</p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">John  Piper suggests that &#8220;mature masculinity accepts the burden of the final  say in disagreements between husband and wife, but does not presume to  use it in every instance&#8221; (<em>What&#8217;s the Difference?</em>, p. 32). But 1  Corinthians 7:5 challenges Piper&#8217;s assumed maxim. If the wife disagrees  with a physical separation, the husband should not overrule his wife  with the &#8220;final choice.&#8221; Biblically, such separation can occur only if  both husband and wife are in &#8220;symphony&#8221; (unity) about such an action.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">Now  if mutual consent applies in an important issue like physical  separation from one another for a period of time, wouldn&#8217;t it seem  proper that coming to one-mindedness would be the broad decision-making  model in a healthy marriage? Piper feels that &#8220;in a good marriage  decision-making is focused on the husband, but is not unilateral&#8221; (<em>What&#8217;s the Difference?</em>, p. 32). Yet in light of 1 Corinthians 7:1-5, I suggest that decision-making should focus on <em>finding the Lord&#8217;s mind together</em>.  Over the years the good ideas, solutions to problems, and answers to  dilemmas will flow from both husband and wife as they seek the Lord as a  couple for &#8220;symphony.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">1 Corinthians 7:5 throws a wrench  into the works for those who would conclude that the husband has the  &#8220;final say&#8221; under presumed authority commonly known as &#8220;male headship.&#8221;  Paul teaches that unless the couple can agree on a course of action, it  should not be executed. I suggest that this revelation invites us to  re-examine what the husband&#8217;s headship really entails (cf. Gordon D.  Fee, “1 Corinthians 7:1-7 Revisited,” <em>Paul &amp; the Corinthians: Studies On A Community in Conflict</em>, Trevor J. Burke/J. Keith Elliott, eds.).</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">It  is safe to say that most evangelical husbands have been affected by the  &#8220;final say&#8221; position embedded in traditional ideas about &#8220;male  headship.&#8221; I would invite believing husbands to meditate on 1  Corinthians 7:1-5, pray about it before the Lord, and discuss it with  your precious wives. I think you will find that <em>seeking the Lord together</em> and waiting for the &#8220;symphony&#8221; that brings unity and peace is a far  better way to function together in a Christ-honoring marriage. The  traditional top-down, hierarchical, the-man-is-in-charge model is out of  sync with Paul&#8217;s words in 1 Corinthians 7:1-5.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">Remember, 1  Corinthians 7:1-5 is the only place in Scripture where the word  &#8220;authority&#8221; is mentioned in connection with marriage. The really  striking thing about this &#8220;authority&#8221; is that it is a <em>mutual authority over each other&#8217;s body</em>,  and has nothing to do with the husband&#8217;s alleged &#8220;authority&#8221; over his  wife. The truth is, compared to traditional ideas about male headship  since the 3rd century AD, Paul&#8217;s perspective here is  revolutionary—especially when it is recalled that in the first century  AD women were often viewed as property or chattel.</span></p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 03:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was talking with my friend Kathy the other day about the beauty of the body of Christ; the ekklesia.  We marveled at how wonderfully Father puts us together.  I then said, “Yeah, it’s like we are individual perfect puzzle pieces and Jesus, as the Head, puts us together like puzzle pieces to form an <a href="http://thenormalchristian.wordpress.com/2010/08/21/we-are-a-perfect-fit/" class="excerpt-more-link">[&#8230;]</a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=thenormalchristian.wordpress.com&#038;blog=6566561&#038;post=422&#038;subd=thenormalchristian&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p><span style="color:#000000;">I was talking with my friend Kathy the other day about the beauty of the body of Christ; the ekklesia.  We marveled at how wonderfully Father puts us together.  I then said, “Yeah, it’s like we are individual perfect puzzle pieces and Jesus, as the Head, puts us together like puzzle pieces to form an image of HIM.” She then said this,</span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><strong><span style="color:#000000;">“He made us complete in order that we might ‘complete’ HIM here on earth.”</span></strong></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">Did you get it?  Do you sense the enormity of that statement?  Reread it!  It is profound yet oh so simple!</span></p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#000000;"><strong>THIS is simple church…..simply put!</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">We as individual Christ followers we together form the magnificent puzzle picture of our Lord Jesus.  THAT my dear brother and sister is the ekklesia!  As “living stones” or living puzzle pieces if you will, we allow the world to find Jesus; to see Him; to experience Him.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#000000;">The koinonia of these individual, complete and perfect pieces form THE house for God to dwell…here and now.  Again, this is truly God’s heart for His family; His people.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#000000;">My dear family of God is this your experience of “church”?  Do your gatherings reflect this precious imagery of His house?  I don’t care if it’s a house church, traditional church or whatever.  It is the heart of our Father to connect passionate hearts for Jesus and to form these into His house and an image of His dear Son and our savior Jesus.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#000000;"><strong>Let us ALL be consumed with Jesus alone, and ask Father to unite our hearts with others with a similar passion for His Son.</strong></span></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a letter that I wrote to a friend back in AZ who had written me a long letter expressing his concern.  I am sharing it, because I believe there are others who might have questions. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ My dear brother! I am so sorry you are going through these struggles.  My heart ached for <a href="http://thenormalchristian.wordpress.com/2010/08/11/a-response-explaining-why/" class="excerpt-more-link">[&#8230;]</a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=thenormalchristian.wordpress.com&#038;blog=6566561&#038;post=408&#038;subd=thenormalchristian&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="color:#000000;"><em>This is a letter that I wrote to a friend back in AZ who had written me a long letter expressing his concern.  I am sharing it, because I believe there are others who might have questions.</em><br />
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<p><span style="color:#000000;">My dear brother!<br />
I am so sorry you are going through these struggles.  My heart ached for you when I read what you are going through.  Father is so very faithful &amp; will meet you in the midst of this.</span></p>
<p>All day my mind raced here &amp; there as to what I wanted to share with you.  First, I want you to know brother that I have read &amp; have been &#8220;influenced&#8221; by many people including several &#8220;no names&#8221; in the body of Christ.  The list of authors are as follows: <strong><a href="http://www.geneedwards.com/">Gene Edwards</a></strong>, <strong><a href="http://frankviola.wordpress.com/">Frank Viola</a></strong>, <strong><a href="http://www.georgebarna.com/">George Barna</a></strong>, <a href="http://www.austin-sparks.net/index.html"><strong>T. Austin Sparks</strong></a>, <strong><a href="http://www.simplychurch.com/">Tony &amp; Felicity Dale</a>, <a href="http://www.cmaresources.org/">Neil Cole</a>, <a href="http://www.searchingtogether.org/">Jon Zens</a>, <a href="http://www.simsonwolfgang.de/html/welcome.html">Wolfgang Simpson</a>, <a href="http://www.floydandsally.org/">Floyd McClung</a>, Robert Fritts, <a href="http://www.watchmannee.org/">Watchman Nee</a></strong> (I may have forgotten a couple).  So you see ____, this is not just something that just &#8220;happened&#8221;.  As I said in my post, it actually started 26 years ago.</p>
<p>So ____, I don&#8217;t see myself as &#8220;part of a movement&#8221;, but rather a life&#8230;.HIS.  I have a deep longing to experience &#8220;living stones&#8221; being built <strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">by HIM</span></strong> into a house <strong>for HIM</strong>!!!  For years (unknowingly for a long time) I&#8217;ve craved the body life He speaks of in His word.  I desire to see &#8220;God get what He wants: a Bride, a body, a building and a family &#8211; a corporate expression of His glorious Son.&#8221;  This is not just positionally it&#8217;s a reality NOW that was born in the heart of God from before time.</p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;"><em>(btw&#8230;in ALL of the authors/speakers mentioned above I have <span style="text-decoration:underline;">not</span> read/heard any of them attack the body.  As a matter of fact they all &#8211; especially Viola &#8211; constantly encourage those already involved in organic fellowships, to NOT discuss or make it all about &#8220;those institutional churches&#8221;.  They are encouraged to keep their focus on JESUS&#8230;.period)</em></span></p>
<p>I love the body deeply &amp; really desire to be a part of that &#8220;corporate expression&#8221; of Jesus.  To watch the body&#8217;s members <strong>EACH </strong>functioning as God intended, with Jesus as the <strong>ONLY </strong>head; to truly experience the &#8220;priesthood of the believers&#8221; (which we say we believe) <span style="text-decoration:underline;">in action</span> each week.  Meeting for one purpose&#8230;.Jesus; to <span style="text-decoration:underline;">discover </span>&amp; <span style="text-decoration:underline;">display </span>Him in real life; not sitting there week after week watching just a few people exercise their gifts &amp; then each &#8220;living stone&#8221; going back to their individual lives; separate from the other &#8220;living stones&#8221;.</p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;">____, I think I do understand what&#8217;s going on inside you right now, but brother please understand I deeply love the &#8220;brethren&#8221;, but I am appalled at the manmade system they find themselves caught in.</span></p>
<p>I was thinking of you today in regard to this all, and realized that this is nothing more than experiencing REAL intimacy in the ecclesia; the very thing I believe your soul longs for.  I love you brother &amp; appreciate your honesty and desire for truth.</p>
<p><span style="color:#993300;"><strong><em><a href="http://thenormalchristian.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/mighty-tree.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-414" title="mighty-tree" src="http://thenormalchristian.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/mighty-tree.jpg?w=150&#038;h=99" alt="" width="150" height="99" /></a>&#8220;To me, the very least of all saints, this grace was given, to preach to the Gentiles the unfathomable <span style="text-decoration:underline;">riches of Christ</span>, and to bring to light what is the administration of <span style="text-decoration:underline;">the mystery</span> which for ages has been hidden in God who created all things; <span style="text-decoration:underline;">so that the manifold wisdom of God might now be made known through THE CHURCH </span></em>[ecclesia]</strong><em><strong> to the rulers and the authorities in the heavenly places. This was in accordance with <span style="text-decoration:underline;">the eternal purpose</span> which He carried out in Christ Jesus our Lord, in whom we have boldness and confident access through faith in Him.&#8221;</strong> </em></span>- <span style="color:#000000;">Ephesians 3:8-10</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#993300;"><strong><em>&#8220;He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.  He is also <span style="text-decoration:underline;">head of the body</span>, the church; and He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that He Himself will come to have <span style="text-decoration:underline;">first place in everything</span>.&#8221;</em></strong> </span><span style="color:#000000;">- Col. 1:17-18<br />
Resting In Him,</span></p>
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